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EARTHROUNDERS   RUSSIA   2014


ROUND TABLE DISCUSSIONS




This is a summary of the major points that have been discussed during the various round table discussions:

A great thanks for all those who have contributed all that information.
Also a great thank to Gérard for keeping the discussions alive and moving and taking those notes.

As this is only a summary of the huge amount of information that has been given, it is suggested that interested Earthrounders contact the "sources" for more details.

Information for Russia :

- Note low level Airways through AOPA Site (www.aopa.ru)
- HF Radio is required
- No 8.33 Mhz required
- NAV fees are U$60 per 100km, so try light handle through Aeroclub
- No navigator required after change in regulations in 2010
- Russia Civil Aviation : www.caiga.ru
With thanks to AOPA.


The Earthrounders Internet Site

Claude reminded us of the two Earthrounders who passed away since the last meeting: Winthrop Dale and Frank Haile.

Then he brieffly recalled the history of the Site from the offer of one page from the EAA on their Site at the first meeting in Oshkosh in 2000. Our site now has 160 pages with an excess of 1500 pictures. The database covers 342 known flights and is 'searchable' for a variety of parameters. There is also an index of all the names with links to the pages treating these names.
Claude also mentionned that we lose an average of one Earthroundesr each year. And in order to pay respect to their memory and not forget them, he proposed a new page, a 'Memorial page', where they could be remembered. He asked for some feed-back, wether the page would be considered as a 'morbid cemetary' or a 'memory lane'. Depending of the feed-back received the page will be created or not. If it is, help is requested from those who have known well the missing Earthrounders with information, photos, etc.


Satelite Tracking:

Claude opened the discussions of GPS tracking. From statistics of the last 3 years, out of 27 RTW, only 9 pilots used some GPS tracking, 8 used Spot and 1 used Spider-track.
The main difference between models is the satellite system they use to uplink the information. The world coverage depends of the uplink.
The main uplinks are:
- Globalstar used by Spot: Covers 80% of the Northern hemisphere and Australia but does not cover the bottom of the 3 main oceans and does not cover polar regions.
- Geo-stationary satellites as used by Immardat: does not cover the polar regions above 78° of latitude.
- Iridium: covers 100% of the globe surface.

The prices reflect the coverage going from the rather cheap Spot (limited coverage) to those using the Iridium sytem (like Spider Track).

So any prospective user of a GPS tracking system should first check the world coverage available before buying. Some glossy brochures simply do not give this important information on the coverage.

Several known users were asked to comment on the devices they have been using:
- Yellow Brick (more for expeditions) by Andrew Hopper
- Spider Track by Andrew Hopper (needs PhD in nuclear physics to work out the manual!)
- Spot by Claude (also needs PhD, limited coverage in Southern Hemisphere)
- Iridium Text System by Claude
- Mail a sail by Flemming
- Track Plus by Bill Charney
- Mywakes.com by Helmut
- Solaradata by Art


Here are a few links to tracking devices manufacturers or dealers:
Indigo: https://www.indigosat.com/
Siper Tracks: http://www.spidertracks.com/
Yellow Birck: "http://www.yellowbrick-tracking.com/
Spot: http://www.findmespot.com
Spot coverage: http://www.findmespot.net.au/SPOT-Coverage.html
Several reviews of the Spot system: http://www.equipped.org/SPOT_ORSummer2007.htm
Jodie's Spot Instructions: http://www.jtlawrosky.com/files/Jodies_Spot_Instructions.pdf
Delorme: http://www.inreachdelorme.com/
Mailasail (Networks available): http://www.mailasail.com/Communication/Equipment
Track Plus: Track Plus: no technical info on Site, no indication on coverage.
Indigo: Indigosat: no indication of coverage.
Mywakes: Mywakes: no indication of coverage.
Solaradata: Solaradata: Uses Iridium: total global coverage.





International flight planners:
- White Rose (seemed to give satisfaction to all and gives a 10% discount to Earthrounders)
- List of handlers worldwide from Acukwik
- FSI (Bankrupt? according to Helmut)
Correction:
FSI (Flight Service International) is still existing and has only changed the name of the company into Flight Service Worldwide (FSW). We spoke today with Mr. Graumann, CEO, and he confirmed that the company is still offering all handling services.
Contact:
e-mail: ops@fsint.de
Phone: +49-(0)7229-1854-0
Fax: +49-(0)7229-1854-18
Many thanks to Marga and Ralph Hannemann for the correction


Insurance Companies which are usually competitive for light aviation incl RTW:
Generalli
Wintherthur
Alianz
AXA
Aviabel
Chartis
Also see a statistic of most used Insurance Companies.
Agents mentioned as helpful (Marc)
Howard in London
Trotch in Germany
ALA in France
Trafords in the UK




Odds and ends:
Memorial Page (commemorating missing Earthrounders) = Positive feedback, so will go ahead
Flemming suggested a password protected forum on site
Matias suggested a fuel cash in Russia, shared with interested pilots.



Next EARTHROUNDERS Meeting options:

Rodney Blois / Cambridge - July 2016
Possibility of using University Digs for accommodation,
Duxford Museum

Norman Livingstone/ Chang Mai - Jan/Feb 2017
Karen people / Elephant tracking / River Rafting
Cheap flights from Europe U$ 1000/1200 fro Europe/USA
Inexpensive accommodation

Flemming Pedersen/ Toulouse - 2nd half September 2016
Cité de l'espace - Aviation Museum
Airbus factory / Canal du Midi boat ride / Le Grand Balcon





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